After 25 years working with founders, investors and people who have built extraordinary things, one thing has become clear. The numbers tell you surprisingly little about the person sitting opposite you. What does tell you something? Whether they are interesting. Whether their word means something when keeping it becomes inconvenient. And whether they are still the same person when the waiter comes to the table as they were thirty seconds earlier. A reflection on how the definition of success changes when you have been in enough rooms.